Infantry, the star of my last post?for his comments on ?beta hate,? left a comment there?about the risk of habituating into an intimacy-averse mindset:
Something I?d like to see you talk about it is the way that a long term dedication to game, abundance mentality and ?not chasing? can lead to intimacy avoidance. Back in my blue pill days I always used to wonder about guys with ?commitment issues? and why they would ever want to cut away from getting close to a girl. Now I know why.
If you get close to a girl and feel that you don?t have the ?upper hand? in your relationship, you reflexively pull back and try to cut ties to avoid oneitis. The girl must think ?he really likes me, so why did he disappear??.
It?s one of those long term issues that I?ve become aware of recently and its only really a problem if you got into game to eventually attract a woman for a long term partnership (like me). When you?ve spent so long training yourself to cut away, how can you really get close to someone?
I?m not here to blow smoke up anybody?s ass, so I?ll be honest ? this is an occupational hazard of getting into the game.
You do need to look at this as a complete tradeoff ? in betaland, you have a desire for emotional comfort and intimacy and an almost uncontrollable urge to seek it out, yet exactly because of those factors you cannot get it and you go uncomforted by the woman?s touch. In alphaland, you?ve conditioned yourself to suppress those desires and urges, but you are in a position to attract women to meet your needs.
This is not a doomsday scenario, as plenty of guys get on the game train and hop back off when they?ve attracted a woman worth keeping and built enough skill to be confident they can keep her.?(Regular commenter Mike C is one of them, who left the operational scene very quickly when he decided the woman he was with was of high quality and worth his investment.)
If you?re paying attention, your next question is likely to be, but why??Why is their a dichotomous split between no emotion (or faking emotion) and going overboard and scaring the gals away?
The thoughts here give prose to a number of concepts I?ve been formulating as I?ve taken a deep analytical look at today?s sexual marketplace and in particular its sexually detached hookup subculture. I have detailed thoughts on the female side of the predicament, but in keeping with Infantry?s concern I?m going to stick to the guys for the moment.
Commented Wudang got my neurons going with his comment to Infantry:
?this post by Xsplat for good thinking on intimacy and closeness. Men need to learn to feel strongly without crumbling.?
Xsplat?s post is a fantastic riff on exactly what it says it is ? that you don?t have to deny your intimate side and be Mr. Robot to be an effective, sexual man.
A huge part of seduction is about intimacy. All of us crave it. For most people it is a peak experience. But for you it doesn?t have to be. It can be your modus operandi.
Forget about being aloof. Intimacy is women?s kryptonite. You can make them weak in the knees with a look.
I?d have to work to remember how many girls I?ve moved in on the first date. How many I connected with from the get go as if we?d been long time lovers. How easy it?s been to just connect. I?ve never tried to be aloof. I?m a passionate man. This personal style has never been a hindrance ? it has been my greatest strength.
DON?T COUNT ON INTIMACY AS A HARBINGER OF COMMITMENT, BUT RATHER AS A NORMAL MALE NEED
Xsplat?s post title ? ?intimacy without commitment? ? brings up an interesting point. For the last generation, women have counseled one another as to how to distinguish guys who want sex vs guys who want sex and other things. They?ve always broken this down on the basis of intimacy ? does he stick around after sex, eats meals, do you meet his parents, does he talk about his feelings, etc.
But lately, women have been flummoxed as these rules seem to be breaking down. ?I don?t get it, we sleep together, eat together, we hang out with his friends, but he says I?m not his girlfriend. He doesn?t talk about planning the future. But he does everything I?d expect a boyfriend to do. Is he just in it for the sex? Is this a ruse? WTF??
What?s really going on, laid bare, is that the man enjoys intimacy, and ? in what is the really distinctive characteristic of today?s sexual marketplace ? he doesn?t feel the need to put some amorphous concept of ?commitment? underneath it.
(Another factor here is that women have raised the costs and expectations of a ?relationship? to very high levels, such that men are wary of putting the ?relationship? label on things so as to avoid the subtextual obligations. Thus men may steer towards ?friends with benefits? arrangements that, far from being booty calls, are relationships in everything but name. A tertiary factor is that men have noticed women?s ability to get out of relationships with almost zero cost to themselves, and are not eager to sign up for an ontological designation that introduces such an?asymmetry.)
Underlying this confusion on the part of women is that women have been taught that men DON?T have active emotional centers and DON?T desire intimacy and possibly that emotional investment is just a con that men pull to secure sexual access. So this male behavior makes no sense, because they have a bogus model.
I see this ?indefinite term relationship? as an outcome of a few combined factors, the most prominent being Boomerism and the accelerating sequelae of the sexual revolution.
In short, first we decoupled sex from commitment, which resulted in mainstream effects like one-night stands and booty calls and excesses like ?free love? communities. Now we?re decoupling intimacy from ?commitment,? reflected in endless engagements and fully-ornamented no-term relationships. And a lot of men are finding that?s a pretty good deal.
Now to the core of the discussion.
GEN Y WAS DEPRIVED OF THE TOOLS FOR SOUND EMOTIONAL EXPRESSION
Part of the reason for this decoupling is that Millenial men were raised by Boomer parents who sought to act more as friends than as parental figures, so Millenials could never emotionally mature and become masters of a healthy emotional system, because they were carrying the emotional immaturity of their parents. Combine that with the beta-ization of Gen Y boys (partially attributable to aggressive feminism, but also to a general trend of a ?kinder and gentler? society) and you find a generation of young men who have been denied the means to meet their basic emotional and bonding needs.
This is one large reason we see so much needy behavior*.?Parents probably thought they were teaching their kids to be emotionally open, but they really just washed them in an orgasm of affect of which they couldn?t make any sense. Boys and men were isolated from the male authority ladder they require to develop from boys to teens to men, and denied the dignity of their own masculinity, inducing further shame and self-doubt.?So they seek emotional context and comfort where it appears to present itself, which to them is women, who are presented in popular culture as the font of goodness and acceptance. But they?re like a hungry man exposed to a storehouse of food, unable to eat in any fashion other than gorging.
(*By the same token, I find today?s young women unable to relate to men of normal emotional range, which they interpret as insecurity and impending neediness ? an emotional trap for their own immature affective systems that they are desperate to avoid.?This explains their preferential and often exclusive attraction to men who overtly display a lack of the emotional vocabulary that is the mark of the unforigveable beta ? in other words, the guys act like jerks, and the women take it as a signal of emotional security, while the rest of the guys are pre-emptively rejected or go completely unnoticed under the assumption they are incipient emotional vampires.?This will be discussed at length in a future post.)
IF YOU?RE SEXY YOU?RE ALLOWED TO BE EMOTIONAL
And of course, because we live in a tingle-first society, the only way for a man to get this intimacy that is his fundamental need is to be sexually attractive and to be under emotional control.?There IS no emotional intimacy available to a man today unless he is able to sexually attract a woman. He can?t hope to parlay paper-alpha status and beta traits into an audition period in which her respect and attraction can grow. He?s gotta have it up front, or he?ll get the ?well it was nice meeting you? and the posthumous ?there just wasn?t any spark? speech she gives to her friends. As Athol Kay put it:
There?s probably not a single man reading this blog who hasn?t had his heart ripped out by a woman rejecting him for his lack of Game at some point in his life. Many of the male readers of this blog are in sexless marriages too. So learning Game is pure and simple?a requirement?for the average guy dealing with women. We?re learning it to simply be able to?have?a relationship with women.
Despite women?s plaintive cries for men who will resonate emotionally with them, men have been consistently punished for seeking to meet their emotional needs as a primary mechanism of relating to women. I?m not going to get into a moral judgment, both sides are understandable. But clever men notice the negative outcomes and veer in the emotionally stunted direction intentionally, which crystallizes into a paradox where they can acquire the furiously sought emotional contact they are no longer in a condition to receive. Which loops us back to the problem that Infantry and Wudang speak of at the top of this post.
In conclusion: long-term commitment and its obligations are decoupling from sex, intimacy and the other benefits of relationships, due to a host of reasons?relating to poor emotional rearing, a broken and disrespected ?commitment? system, and a sexually atomized society. Game is a partial solution to the male problem of getting sexual attention which is a prerequisite for acquiring emotional comfort and relationship benefits, but is not a solution IF one becomes emotionally repressed and confined in the process. For some men that?s not a big deal; for most men I wager it is, because for them it?s about a lot more than rubbing until you get off ? it?s about contact and closeness, and?being desired and respected and allowed to be vulnerable.
Source: http://badgerhut.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/decoupling-intimacy-and-commitment/
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